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Old October 6th, 2008, 05:27 PM
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Default Heat vs. Thickness.... the never ending battle!

OK, so recently, i've been using my vortex bowl i got from Saharahsmoke.com. As advertised, it's supposed to cut down on the ability of a shisha to burn due to the capture of shisha juices in the base. As i very much agree that the shisha stays moist much longer than it did in a usual bowl, i have been burning my shisha quite a bit recently, and it's very frustrating. I like everybody else like to play with my smoke, whether it be bubbles or rings or whatever, but you can't do that with thin crappy smoke. So, as usual, i'll add a coal here and there to warm it up more and try and get more smoke volume for my drag. Consequences of this usually result in my shisha being fried and tasting like crap.

My problem is that i like my smoke rediculously thick, not too harsh, and not burnt. Is there a way to achieve this thickness without burning it by adding more heat? I've heard of the "add milk to it" and all these other theories, but i believe it just comes back to heat management and the right environment. Does anybody who gets really good smoke wanna share their success and help me out in achieving a good, thick, peacefull smoke session? It would be well appreciated
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Old October 6th, 2008, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: Heat vs. Thickness.... the never ending battle!

o, and just for reference, i'm usually smoking al falker, rosetta, or hookah hookah, and using either Aklah or some other holland made charcoal with an evenly distributed hole pattern all the way around the bowl
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Old October 6th, 2008, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: Heat vs. Thickness.... the never ending battle!

i get crazy clouds off my vortex, use three coals and dont set them directly ontop of the bowl but like have each hanging from the side.. and use a windcover.. i get the thickest smoke w/ this setup
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Old October 6th, 2008, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: Heat vs. Thickness.... the never ending battle!

How many layers of foil are you using? IF just one i would try using 2. How many coals do you use? I find that 2-3 is usually is good.
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Old October 6th, 2008, 05:35 PM
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i usually only use one layer of heavy duty foil with two coals to start off, usually evenly spaced out on the top of the bowl on each side, sitting on the center piece of the vortex bowl and the rim. After the first two die down, i add two more to the other side of the bowl that wasn't smoked yet
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Old October 6th, 2008, 05:38 PM
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I'd try a 3rd one.
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Old October 6th, 2008, 05:45 PM
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so evenly space them around like a triangle around the bowl and just see how that works? i have a topless windcover, so hanging them over the edge is kindof limited, but i could try and have them sit on the rim a little and see if that helps it out too... i should really just light it up and mess around with it till i get it right...
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Old October 6th, 2008, 05:51 PM
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I do it in a triangle they touch my wind cover too. Its ok if they do... I promise
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Old October 6th, 2008, 06:28 PM
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dont worry i will teach u how to do it
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Default Re: Heat vs. Thickness.... the never ending battle!

I stopped using the vortex for this reason and went back to the phunnel. It just seemed to get too hot too fast and scorch my tobacco.
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Old October 6th, 2008, 07:06 PM
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i really just thought about getting a phunnel instead... it seems to yield better results than the vortex anyway...
and of course mr paris, you can teach me this weekend, and maybe i'll have it down pact when you come visit the weekend after....
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Default Re: Heat vs. Thickness.... the never ending battle!

For those of you who can't get it "hot and thick" enough, I heard there is a prescription available for that now.
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For those of you who can't get it "hot and thick" enough, I heard there is a prescription available for that now.
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Old October 6th, 2008, 09:09 PM
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maybe i should throw a pill or two in the vase of my hookah.... maybe that'll get it get it as thick as i want lol
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