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Old January 4th, 2009, 02:21 AM
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Default acclimating hookah...

does it make it taste better cause i have a lot of crapy tasting hookah that i dont wanna throw away cause its still smokable : p
and how do you do it?
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Old January 4th, 2009, 02:23 AM
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i dont really know if it makes it taste better.. i think it makes it less harsh. :\

but look what i found! http://completehookah.com/setup/acclimate.shtml

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Old January 4th, 2009, 02:28 AM
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Default Re: acclimating hookah...

found this too from shishapipe.net ... i just googled it. lol

Acclimating the molasses

"Acclimating the molasses" basically means giving the molasses some time to get used to its environment. We do this because the tobacco forms equilibrium with the moisture in the air.
When it is out of balance the juice becomes too runny, or the excess moisture in the air dissolves all the flavors wrong. If you acclimate your tobacco, it allows the tobacco to reach equilibrium with the air, making the smoke thicker and more flavorful. This is most especially important with molasses containing nicotine, but flavor changes can be found in non-nicotine tobaccos too. It is best to let the tobacco sit out in the environment it will be smoked in for at least 3 hours prior to your smoking session. The idea of acclimating your molasses may not sound realistic, but try it once and you will definitely notice a difference, in comparison to smoking the molasses right out of the box.

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Old January 4th, 2009, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: acclimating hookah...

i was not familiar with this...im going to have to try it because right now i keep everything sealed up as tight as i can to keep all moisture in.
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Old January 4th, 2009, 06:23 AM
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I used to acclimate everything I smoked overnight to 24 hours, but I don't anymore. I never noticed much difference between acclimating and not. If a flavor smells off or way too strong I'll acclimate it for a few hours.
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Old January 4th, 2009, 07:58 AM
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Default Re: acclimating hookah...

Actually, acclimating my AF Grape (Batch May 2008) made it slightly more smokable. I am never buying this flavour again!
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Old January 4th, 2009, 12:55 PM
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Acclimating washed brands, Starbuzz, Fantasia, Epic, etc. is pointless. Tangiers is the tobacco that always needs to be acclimated, but since you seem very new to the hookah culture, you most likely havn't heard of that brand. Al Fakher is common, but doesn't need acclimation to adjust flavor, only very rarely and in most cases your attempts will be fruitless. Al Amir doesn't need it, nor does Nakhla.

You might just have a dirty pipe.
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Old January 4th, 2009, 01:13 PM
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Acclimating washed brands, Starbuzz, Fantasia, Epic, etc. is pointless. Tangiers is the tobacco that always needs to be acclimated, but since you seem very new to the hookah culture, you most likely havn't heard of that brand. Al Fakher is common, but doesn't need acclimation to adjust flavor, only very rarely and in most cases your attempts will be fruitless. Al Amir doesn't need it, nor does Nakhla.

You might just have a dirty pipe.
i heard that tangiers always needs to be acclimated as well, but why? what makes it different from the others that dont need it?
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Old January 4th, 2009, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: acclimating hookah...

In the humid moist ridden air of the Northwest, I have to acclimate everything otherwise it's off...even washed shisha...the climate of Seattle just changes so frequently. I have yet to find a brand that hasn't needed acclimation up here, and tasted great out of the box...except for old AF mint....how i miss it...
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i heard that tangiers always needs to be acclimated as well, but why? what makes it different from the others that dont need it?
the tobacco isn't washed, and it's a noir style, which makes the flavor very bold. When humidity changes, the tobacco goes into humidity shock, and smells like soy auce/ BBQ sauce until it is used to it's new humidity.
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Default Re: acclimating hookah...

Acclimate Tangiers Noir, thats it.
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the tobacco isn't washed, and it's a noir style, which makes the flavor very bold. When humidity changes, the tobacco goes into humidity shock, and smells like soy auce/ BBQ sauce until it is used to it's new humidity.
ew. i'll keep that in mind

:] .....but nakhla is unwashed as well. why not nakhla?
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Old January 4th, 2009, 02:13 PM
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people talk about acclimating and include airing out shisha in to acclimating. there is a difference in what is going on.

acclimation is equalizing humidity levels which really only matters on unwashed shishas mostly tangiers. airing out is what is done on shishas that are washed and that the taste os off due to the chemicals int eh flavorings being in the wrong combinations. eric from tangiers had explained it very well but in short you have chemicals that make taste and smells and in different combinations it makes it be another smell or taste (hence the grape and ketchup thing), airing out can make the chemicals even out some times, other times it cannot.

i aired out some bad AF grape and it still was not very good, better but not good, i have a 250g of af cola that is bad and airing out has made it not smell like a bucket of chemicals but its far from smokable still

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ew. i'll keep that in mind

:] .....but nakhla is unwashed as well. why not nakhla?
Part of the reason Tangiers can taste like bbq sauce is the molasses that is used in it's production. Nakhla uses a lighter and less robust molasses so that flavor does not come out as much.
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Old January 4th, 2009, 05:36 PM
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Part of the reason Tangiers can taste like bbq sauce is the molasses that is used in it's production. Nakhla uses a lighter and less robust molasses so that flavor does not come out as much.
I don't think they use molasses at all, I think it's actually water-based with glycerine and maybe honey. Nakhla Zag might contain actual molasses though. Nakhla Zag in a way is unflavored Tangiers. So is Salloum Plain. If Tangiers went unflavored, it would most likely taste like Salloum Plain, which, if not acclimated, smells like BBQ sauce.
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Old January 4th, 2009, 07:28 PM
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I don't think they use molasses at all, I think it's actually water-based with glycerine and maybe honey. Nakhla Zag might contain actual molasses though. Nakhla Zag in a way is unflavored Tangiers. So is Salloum Plain. If Tangiers went unflavored, it would most likely taste like Salloum Plain, which, if not acclimated, smells like BBQ sauce.
im 99% sure it does have molasses, i dont have the full package sheet though around to check but on the package i think it says molasses

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Old January 4th, 2009, 08:48 PM
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im 99% sure it does have molasses, i dont have the full package sheet though around to check but on the package i think it says molasses

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I have never seen clear molasses before!
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I have never seen clear molasses before!
wait were you referring to nakhla or tangiers?

i think i may have read your response wrong

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Old January 5th, 2009, 12:34 PM
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wait were you referring to nakhla or tangiers?

i think i may have read your response wrong

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To nakhla, not tangiers. Tangiers is definitely molasses!
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To nakhla, not tangiers. Tangiers is definitely molasses!
ok ya i was wondering what the heck you were thinking, i think nakhla is molasses as well but not positive, the "juice" on nakhla that i have is still kinda brown

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Well Nakhla says Molasses Tobacco on most every pack. Their ingredients are "Tobacco, Molasses, Preservatives, and Flavour"
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My mistake! I guess it may just be a different style of tobacco then? Or maybe it's the preservatives.
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C'mon Zen you can say it buddy, don't be afraid. You can quote me if you like. Nakhla is great, Tangiers is great, NOT! Bwa ha ha
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Old January 5th, 2009, 01:02 PM
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C'mon Zen you can say it buddy, don't be afraid. You can quote me if you like. Nakhla is great, Tangiers is great, NOT! Bwa ha ha
Hey man I love my Nakhla Mandarin!
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