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Old January 21st, 2009, 11:58 PM
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Default No Flavor :[ What am I doing wrong?

Okay,

So every single one of our shishas smell FAMAZING. But, when we smoke it, i can't taste any flavor. I mean, the smell is spot on.. but that's about it.

gets me annoyed because i've been to hookah bars and they're getting a helluva lot more flavor than i am!

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- Vortex, leaving a bit of space from the top
- Exoticas - 2/3 finger coals
- Nakhla, HH, & Starbuzz
- Nour stem with KM base... dont ask lol
- Right amount of water

Am i doing something wrong or am i just being dumb cause everything is the way it should be?
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: No Flavor :[ What am I doing wrong?

1. CLean your hookah/hose

2. Try less heat

3. What flavors in particular are you using with those lines?
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: No Flavor :[ What am I doing wrong?

use cold water, stir your tobacco up when you pack it, clean out the hookah like bradeup said, vary your amount of heat, usually less, but sometimes more is what you need.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 12:04 AM
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yeah.. i havnt gotten much good flavor from HH yet myself. but starbuzz is full of flavor and sugar and crap you should be getting something out of that.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: No Flavor :[ What am I doing wrong?

1. CLean your hookah/hose - okay, i'll do it tomorrow

2. Try less heat - even with the crappy clouds from not putting quite enough?

3. What flavors in particular are you using with those lines?
Nahkla - DA, Orange
HH - Grape, Blueberry (with some Nakhla Mint),
Starbuzz - Lemon Mint

oh, and btw, we got good flavor out of Nakhla Sweet Melon unfortunately. tasted so nasty. like baby lucas or something. eck.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: No Flavor :[ What am I doing wrong?

those have enough flavor, clean, and then if youre not getting enough smoke, use more heat, and less tobacco.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 12:41 AM
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wtf is a baby lucas lol
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 01:05 AM
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Default Re: No Flavor :[ What am I doing wrong?

I had the same problem after smoking Nakhla Da for three years ... what I did is that I quitted smoking hookah for two weeks and the problem was solved .. I know it sounds stupid but this is what happened.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 01:15 AM
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wtf is a baby lucas lol
lol. i guess thats a "mexican" thing. i haven't had it in YEARS though. if i found some i'd buy it in a heart beat... bad for your teeth though..

http://www.latinmerchant.com/product...ductID=SSD0136
http://www.zeer.com/Food-Products/Ba...wder/000098307

it's sweet yet super tangy and really good actually... but NOT as a shisha flavor... dear sweet baby jesus no...
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 02:53 AM
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lol. i guess thats a "mexican" thing. i haven't had it in YEARS though. if i found some i'd buy it in a heart beat... bad for your teeth though..

http://www.latinmerchant.com/product...ductID=SSD0136
http://www.zeer.com/Food-Products/Ba...wder/000098307

it's sweet yet super tangy and really good actually... but NOT as a shisha flavor... dear sweet baby jesus no...
LOL you DO know why they stopped selling them in major stores right? Traces of lead and people getting poisoned. But i loves sprinkling that spicy ship on some doritos hahahaha.

on and with nakhla keep the number of holes on the foil low and be very careful with the heat management. its a sticky but drier shish so it will burn if theres too much heat.

oh and on the nakhla
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 03:52 AM
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dont worry about hh grape there is no grape flav in it but yeah stir it up and its big flav over big coulds
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by gigdarling25 View Post
1. CLean your hookah/hose - okay, i'll do it tomorrow

2. Try less heat - even with the crappy clouds from not putting quite enough?

3. What flavors in particular are you using with those lines?
Nahkla - DA, Orange
HH - Grape, Blueberry (with some Nakhla Mint),
Starbuzz - Lemon Mint

oh, and btw, we got good flavor out of Nakhla Sweet Melon unfortunately. tasted so nasty. like baby lucas or something. eck.
Nakhla DA and Nakhla Orange are my wife's favorites. Be quite sure you break up the brick and mix it up really well before you pack, and dig from the bottom. Mixing really should eliminate that need but still do it anyway. Nakhla Orange is pretty potent stuff and quite good. Too little heat can be a problem but too much heat brings out more of the tobacco flavor. Find the balance in the force and you should be there.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 01:30 PM
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[FONT=Verdana]I have the same problem. But if you taste nothing at all not even a dirty hookah or that the tobacco is burning I would say the problem is with you. You may have burnt most of your taste buds or you could have a sinus problem (I suggest a sinus rinse before/after you smoke) and are not able to smell the smoke as you inhale. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana]I can never really get the full flavour; it is always very faint I get more of an idea of what flavour it is. I have been smoking for about 6 years and I never had this problem when I first started to smoke, this all happened to me about a year or two ago. Here are a few things these guys told me to do and it did help a bit.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana]Vortex Bowl[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]2 coals (I like coco nara)[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]Windcover[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]1 sheet of HD foil [/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana]Make sure to pack the bowl loosely so air can get in there, and never pack it high enough where the tobacco is just going to burn. Just under the rim is normally good enough. On a vortex I like to pack to just a bit under the middle stem and I have never had a problem with burning while using it. When I smoke I make sure to ash the coals every 5 - 10 minutes and to rotate them around the bowl always keeping them to the outside rim.[/FONT]
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: No Flavor :[ What am I doing wrong?

My mates got te same problem, i get plenty of flavour he gets non, wait a week and then smoke
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 03:14 PM
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1. Make sure everything is clean, the hose can carry flavors from other sessions.
2. Mix up the shisha really good get the juices flowin
3. try 2/4 of exoticas or 3/4 exoticas sometime the more heat, more of the flavor comes out (I notice this with SB and HH)
4. wind cover to get started
5. Cold water in the base
6. tight seals on all grommets
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 03:34 PM
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sometimes i have like you in a few weeks but it will pass
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: No Flavor :[ What am I doing wrong?

How KK smokes HH / HF

With HH I like to use TONS of really tiny holes like (made w/ a push pin)
Use 2/4 of a stick of exotica (Which equal 4 japs- 2 on each side still connected)
Put them on your bowl, one on each side
put a wind cover on the bowl and let it "warm up" the shisha for a few minutes
Then take off the wind cover and start smoking. Put the wind cover back on if you feel the session getting weaker.

Be careful w/ hh it burns easily! You can always take away coals / windcovers if it's getting too hot.

If yuo are new to hookah, then you shouldn't have burned your taste buds out yet.

Make sure you change your base every time too.
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Set-Up:
- Vortex, leaving a bit of space from the top
- Exoticas - 2/3 finger coals
- Nakhla, HH, & Starbuzz
- Nour stem with KM base... dont ask lol
- Right amount of water
Windcover? Also, are you using a screen or foil?
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 10:30 PM
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here i go..

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1. CLean your hookah/hose - okay, i'll do it tomorrow
didn't have time today.. but i also didn't smoke to give myself "a rest". hopefully things will be better tomorrow.

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LOL you DO know why they stopped selling them in major stores right? Traces of lead and people getting poisoned. But i loves sprinkling that spicy ship on some doritos hahahaha.
SHUT THE CRAP UP! i didn't know that's why i haven't seen them in forever and a day... i ate those like crazy.. never got poisoned thank goodness

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Be quite sure you break up the brick and mix it up really well before you pack, and dig from the bottom. Mixing really should eliminate that need but still do it anyway. Nakhla Orange is pretty potent stuff and quite good.
oh ok... cause i just opened up the brick and put it in the bowl from there.. TRYING IT OUT TOMORROW!

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Make sure you change your base every time too.
Really? Change out the base everytime? why?

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Windcover? Also, are you using a screen or foil?
dont have a windcover..what i do is just let the coals sit for about 5 mins to heat up the shisha and go from there. and i'm using foil.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 10:42 PM
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1. Make sure everything is clean, the hose can carry flavors from other sessions.
2. Mix up the shisha really good get the juices flowin
3. try 2/4 of exoticas or 3/4 exoticas sometime the more heat, more of the flavor comes out (I notice this with SB and HH)
4. wind cover to get started
5. Cold water in the base
6. tight seals on all grommets
^^ Best advice you've got so far. It'll work, just a little more trial and you'll get it right. Best of luck.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 01:43 AM
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less heat works
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 04:33 AM
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i think u should just put a normal egyptian head on it...see if that changes anything... hell use a QL lol
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So, i cleaned out my hose and hookah completely, used less heat, swished up the tobacco (SB Lemon Mint) thoroughly and THE MOMENT OF TRUTH! ...........

that was THE best session i've had at home thus far. THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE. For a while there i couldn't even take big hits (i didn't mention that).. but now it's completely different.

i'm so glad i have you guys.....
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