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Old February 11th, 2009, 02:32 PM
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Default Tobacco prices on the rise!

With tobacco prices doing up this summer. It's a good time to stock up on shisha. I think the vendors should clear some inventory
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Old February 11th, 2009, 02:37 PM
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there was another thread about it, but i dont remember, where it was.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 02:49 PM
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I don't know if shisha will be that affected by it.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 03:02 PM
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guess what else is going up? tobacco taxes, i heard that a box of ciggs is going up a dollar, but even worse $5k per ton of shishal which equals $1.25 per 250g box. great!
here it is: http://www.hookahpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9665
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Old February 11th, 2009, 03:04 PM
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Shisha will definitely be affected by it in TX.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 03:05 PM
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Welcome to UK prices, but its still cheper in the US
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Old February 11th, 2009, 03:06 PM
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I;m honesty just worried about cigars.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 04:23 PM
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I don't know if shisha will be that affected by it.
Shisha will be affected, especially imported shisha. I'd expect to see a $1 to $4 increase (per 250g) depending upon where the shisha is coming from and the brand. Certain companies that mark up their retail prices beyond reson are going to start feeling some pressure since their prices are already so high.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 04:54 PM
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Come to Denmark and buy you get 50g for what you pay for 250g in USA
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Old February 11th, 2009, 04:54 PM
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I;m honesty just worried about cigars.
My humi is pretty well stocked still but if this really gets out of hand I have already tried, and liked, some of the JR Alternatives.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 05:05 PM
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What you guys ought to be worried about is not the tax increases so much as the coming tidal wave of inflation. Having and extra 1-4 buck price increase per 250g is nothing compared with what will happen as the value of the dollar sinks. Anyone see how the world wide financial markets are doing today in response to the Obama spending plan? Basically the American government is gearing up the printing presses to churn out an additional 3 000 000 000 000 which when added to a public sector deficit bigger then the GDP and unsustainable private sector debt many times the global GDP the cost of absolutely everything (not just moassel) will raise at such a rate that the stagflation of the Carter era will look positively idyllic.

In most countries shockingly high tobacco prices support a welfare state and health care programs. In the U.S. it looks like it'll just dribble away into TARP like spending programs. I guess now is the time to buy tobacco since you may not be able to a month or two from now unless you hit powerball or get a really fat raise.

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This sucks I'm gonna start stocking up as much as I can every time I get paid!!lol
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Old February 11th, 2009, 06:10 PM
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Old February 11th, 2009, 06:38 PM
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I am already sick of the socialist state that Obama and democrats in general are trying to create in a traditionally capitalist country... why must these people invade our country and pollute it with this centralized government policy, is it that hard to move to France or Sweden? Yahooo for having a black president, but what about the fact that his policies are closer to those of Josef Stalin than George Washington?
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Old February 11th, 2009, 11:25 PM
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I am already sick of the socialist state that Obama and democrats in general are trying to create in a traditionally capitalist country... why must these people invade our country and pollute it with this centralized government policy, is it that hard to move to France or Sweden? Yahooo for having a black president, but what about the fact that his policies are closer to those of Josef Stalin than George Washington?
i dont want to make this a political debate but i have to say this. 1) we are basically the only western civilized nation with out a healthcare program, and most of the other countries run them fine and dont charge crazy taxes to do so yet still give docs, nurses, etc good pay. 2) obama is not socialist, the term is a misnomer used by far right opponents. 3) with out taxes our country falls apart, you need them so we dont have a 10 trillion buck deficit. capitalism and any other form of economy have flaws, our country is hitting a point where the flaws are about to topple and undermine the spirit of the system

any way, it will suck if shisha prices go up but o well, like HF said its the inflation that is killing us which is the cause of excessive spending causing debt that does not help our own economy and has no way of helping us back later on in any way financially. lets just hope that we dont turn into Zimbabwe where they cannot print high enough denominations of notes to keep up with inflation

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Old February 11th, 2009, 11:55 PM
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ya im not gonna try to keep a debate goin, but i just think that if one is gonna try to change the way a country is run, why on earth would they not go to a country that already imposes an economic system they so dearly want. Diversity is what makes the world go around.. at least thats what I believe. also, the 10 trillion buck defecit you speak of would be far smaller if we did not have $800B "economic stimulous" packages that drove us further into debt by adopting a policy that (oh man am i gonna catch hell from this one) did not work when it was applied in the first place, a world war fixed that one up. Now its obvious that a World War III is not something that we want to be happening, but its also obvious that , throughout history, government intervention has tended to fail because only so much can happen when it is directed by a single group of people. We need to get real , as americans, and realize that this country is no more for the people, run by the people, but run by a select group of rich people who play with issues that can severely hurt people without a large chunk of change saved up for times when the economy is in the shitter. Im sorry if this doesnt make sense to you guys, i am still young and believe I still have alot to learn, but this is what I believe at this juncture in my life. I love you all whether you are a socialist or a capitalist :-).
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Old February 12th, 2009, 03:59 AM
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lol...hrmm im going to buy a few cows, grow a garden, can my garden goods, instal a wood burner, get a truckfull of tobacco and coals, get some solar panels, live in a bubble, and sharpen my knives and load my guns. lol wow naa im just going to stock up lol
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Old February 12th, 2009, 04:16 AM
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Good bye starbuzz there is no way i'm paying 25$ for 250g, 15-20$ is bad enough.
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lol...hrmm im going to buy a few cows, grow a garden, can my garden goods, instal a wood burner, get a truckfull of tobacco and coals, get some solar panels, live in a bubble, and sharpen my knives and load my guns. lol wow naa im just going to stock up lol
my brother is kinda gona do that lol, and i dont think hes crazy for doing so. he already is in a bunch of co ops (gets crazy amounts for fruits and veggies for like 400 ish a year, he would pay 1000 at stores for the same and get crappy stuff compared to this, got a share of a cow so he got fresh unpasteurized milk and like 1/3 of the meat of a cow this year) he wants to go off the grid, already cans stuff, and wants to learn how to reload.

given he also is planing on buying a farm to do all this on so it makes a little more sense

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I grow a garden every year. I will increase production this year. Won't be long til we are waiting in line for a loaf of bread.
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Old February 12th, 2009, 04:33 PM
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That is about the extent of the "change" Americans can expect. In most countries massive taxes at least give you a wide range of government services but it looks like the higher taxes you guys will be paying will basically go to interest payments on the national debt.

I suppose that within the next couple of years organized crime will become a big factor in tobacco trafficking in the U.S. as the tax burdens and inflation make it way too expensive for normal people to afford.

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o..m..g.... no more BLUE/Citrus MIST!
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