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Old February 15th, 2009, 11:11 PM
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Question Is smoking hookah really smoking?

Ok so these past few days I've been thinking is it really smoking? For me when i think of smoking I think of tobacco burning and creating actual smoke like how a log would in a fireplace. Yes true we do burn our coals but, we only seek the heat of them. Unless you soak them in gasoline or butane they're not really going to have smoke coming from them, or do we just suck it in through the bowl instead of it rising? When I think of "smoking" hookah I kinda just relate it to roasting... You want to heat it so the natural juices and marinade to heat up and cook the meat that way, not have it fire grilled and partly burnt. When you smoke hookah you kinda just want it to roast and sizzle... vaporize it if you will...

So are we actually smokers or are we vaporizers or are we roasters?

yeah. just something to think about...

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Old February 15th, 2009, 11:24 PM
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I think its more of a vapor than it is Smoke. Since the tobacco isn't exactly burning, you can't call it smoking. But I still see why it's called smoking.
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Old February 15th, 2009, 11:25 PM
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haha yeah vaporize I couldn't remember the word but yeah that's what i meant in stead of steam..I think i'll go edidt my post

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Old February 15th, 2009, 11:54 PM
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I would say that's really just a matter of semantics.
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Old February 15th, 2009, 11:55 PM
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"vaporize" has too many syllables
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I think it would sound weird to say "Hey guys, wanna come back to my place and vaporize some hookah?"

+1 to semantics
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Old February 15th, 2009, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: Is smoking hookah really smoking?

My head hurts now.... It is purely semantics, but if you want to be technically correct, I would say it depends. In the best of sessions, it'd be vaporizers, but I've never had a session where I didn't burn the tobacco, so I'd say it's a combo of smokers and vaporizers, but I see your point... which is why I'm so scared at the moment...
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Old February 16th, 2009, 12:07 AM
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interesting post Rafi, i'm gonna have to agree with the other guys and say its a matter of semantics..i wouldn't necessarily call it "smoking" though, but its definately not just vapor. just my opinion
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Old February 16th, 2009, 12:17 AM
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interesting post Rafi, i'm gonna have to agree with the other guys and say its a matter of semantics..i wouldn't necessarily call it "smoking" though, but its definately not just vapor. just my opinion

Thanx yeah i think i may have to agree too... but hard to agree 100% because from my own personal experience after I'm done (after a good session) the tobacco is only dried after not burnt...one time a friend of mine who is a big pipe tobacco smoker took the tobacco out of the bowl when we were done and finshed it off that way...he said it wasn't so great and kinda hard to keep it going but he'd do it again (still hasn't retried the experiment)

but yeah haha sometimes I just have to ask those questions that get people to really think...
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Old February 16th, 2009, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: Is smoking hookah really smoking?

Put yourself in place of the tobacco and suddenly its all the same.
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Old February 16th, 2009, 01:02 AM
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vaporize !!
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Old February 16th, 2009, 01:06 AM
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Put yourself in place of the tobacco and suddenly its all the same.
I would smoke/vaporize terribly. Geek is not an appealing flavor.
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Old February 16th, 2009, 01:21 AM
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I feel the need to refer to it as vaporizing now. 'Course, then my friends will just think I have a weird name for PCP or something....
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Old February 16th, 2009, 02:26 AM
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vaporizing is something i only use in explanation
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Old February 16th, 2009, 02:36 AM
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yes its smoking, because your still getting carbon monoxide. the tar lever is nothing or next to nothing (depending on how good you are with the coals to not burn the shisha) because of the vaporizing factor, but the amount of carbon monoxide you are breathing in is the equivalent to a pack of cigarets in a solid one hour hookah session, because of the large amount of hookah smoke we breath in. when i read the i had to keep looking it up, it just didn't seem right, but a lot of science report sites say that.
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Default Re: Is smoking hookah really smoking?

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"vaporize" has too many syllables
yeah lets not complicate things, plus all the cool kids smoke not vaporize
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Old February 16th, 2009, 05:04 AM
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I'm glad that I read the posts of my learned collegues or would have pulled your ear about it being more vapour than smoking.
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Its smoke. we are talking about a form here, not what it is.. It transforms a solid into a smoke which is why its called smoking
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real tobacco, real smoke -> real smoking
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Old February 16th, 2009, 08:26 PM
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real tobacco, real smoke -> real smoking
good enhough for me...so it's setteled IT IS SMKOING...with an iddy biddy vaporisation thrown in
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Old February 16th, 2009, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: Is smoking hookah really smoking?

When i was first introduced to hookah, i always wondered what people were talking about when the tobacco started "burning", i was like isnt it supposed to do that?
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Old February 16th, 2009, 08:49 PM
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I remember thinking that too...I was all like "how do you smoke it then?
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Old February 16th, 2009, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: Is smoking hookah really smoking?

Smoke is a product of combustion.

Vaporization is turning a solid or liquid into a gas.


Smoke is harsh, that's why you can't smoke the hookah when its on fire and why you can't take a monster drag off a cigarette.

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Its smoke. we are talking about a form here, not what it is.. It transforms a solid into a smoke which is why its called smoking
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Old February 16th, 2009, 10:03 PM
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I dont think its vaporizing. Tobacco does not produce smoke when it is vaporized.
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Old February 16th, 2009, 10:15 PM
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I dont think its vaporizing. Tobacco does not produce smoke when it is vaporized.
i'll take that challenge... gimme 10 mins



edit: it most certainly does. Using my electric vaporizer i get light hits. Big enough to blow O's still. If i could get it as hot as a coal i'd get the same result as hookah. The tobacco appears dried out but not burnt in any way.

edit2: this is actually kind of nice. I might do it again if i want to smoke but not for a whole hookah session.

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